![]() … also seems strange to me, that if you are “cross grading” from a competitors product (eg Sibelius/Finale) you can get a discount, but if you are a long term customer, and already have the other products, you cannot be treatedĬurrently I own the following VSTs: East West Platinum Orchestra, East West Symphonic Choirs, VSL Special Edition, VSL Percussion, VSL XXL Tam-tam and VSL Konzerthaus Organ. (… I know people will chime in and say that the cost is for the core software, and not the bundled plugins,īut the cold cash reality is that (a) Steinberg do SELL these add on’s and (b) without these additional add-ons, the purchaser would not be able to actually “hear” anything with Dorico ie, if it was the purchasers first ever expedition to the new digital way of scoring/engraving, and I guess finally © if they were merely just casual bundle “throw ins” then Steinberg should just about (literally) give them away, instead of selling them in their online-shop of course … I do not see them doing that The way I see it (wearing my fiscal colored rose glasses), plain vanilla Dorico should cost less minus the amounts that Steinberg are currently selling these bundled products. I already own version of HAlionSonic2 + Symphonic, and seeing as SB actually $sell these, you would think, (well I guess this is my subjective view) that the long term loyal customers that already use Cubase, HAlionSonic2, Symphonic, etc should not have to repay (Again) for these “bundled” components. +yeah, right on! I would prefer an un bundled product. Hope that Dorico will have a cheaper version without bundling HSO and Halion Sonic. I prefer VSL Special Collection Volume 01 for its more-realistic articulations regarding solo strings / woodwinds / brass. In sumery: When you just need a library for your own purpose, to check your score it will be definately an improvement.Īs I see it, it still works for orchestral mockups prior to studio recording. I had one job were I needed a sensitive Cello solo and the only sound that matches perfectly came from the out-dated Kirk Hunter, although I own nearly every library on the market (gear or girl was such an easy decision at this time LOL )īut this is another story and should be told another time.Īll libraries have one thing in common: No matter whether you use a notation program or a DAW, you will have to play to role of a conductor as well to get the most out of the library. The main goal/job dictates which library to use and most likely one is not enough. Hollywood series (EastWest), cinesamples or the strings from 8Dio. A lot of these library sounds are already treaten in a certain way ie. In general even to high level libraries are developed to match certain jobs. I’ve put place holders as it’s easier to go back to the MOTIF and recreate the patches, themselves once placeholders for timbre ideas via Hypersonic2, or HALionOne.I would say it is much better than Garritan or Sib-Sounds - But there is still headroom to the high level libraries - but as far as I know it is the only vsti-3 library (orchestra) that can handle note expression. I just dug out one of a huge # of, important projects and did searches of entire banks, of HALion SE3.5 … dozens of tracks, which I reset up in Cubase 11 and found not a single facsimile of the sounds, by name or timbre from dropped VSTis. Even if they’re just placeholders for the part. Or a search that found the missing patches. I get development but always felt code could keep these products at least in function. As much as I’ve a MOTIF XF it’s a frustrating deal, if you write symphonic music, with 3 dozen tracks, and they swap them out every few years. This seems, as much as HALion Sonic SE has many new, cool, critical features, is disruptive to a library material made over 15-20 years. The sounds used were never found to be the “same sounds” available in HE 1 etc to HE3. synth sound with built in delay (as on HALion One), or a guitar lead swell (Hypersonic 2) any such nuances, then kill the part. Snare or tympani in another context, such as without a gleckenspeil on the same wave, or a certain perc. They are not “replaced” by name & timbre in newer platforms. Its important that Steinberg understand axing VSTis is a horrid thing for the arranger of large symphonic or really any pieces. I know this post is old, but a Comment: Originally HALion One was said to cover all the sounds dropped from Hypersonic 2 (never made sense to me to write out a VSTi from service, let alone for $270, in 05), yet I never could find a single title or sample edits of important patches were the same at all, after searching 1st HALion One, and then as HALion One phased out., HALion SE.
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